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18/08/2020 11:29 am  

I have recently got a lot of advertising on YouTube that I never had before. Has anything changed? In Settings / Blocker all blockers displayed red: DNS service is not activated. (Der DNS Dienst ist nicht aktiviert.) Is it related to that?
I can't activate DNS, after that the internet doesn't work anymore, it's dead.


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18/08/2020 7:58 pm  

If you need help we need your's first: please check this before posting and make sure to post in the right forum. I've moved your topic from the Official Announcements forum already. Just add more infos here.

To answer your first question in brief: no 😮 


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23/08/2020 3:34 pm  

@benne

White Cube 1st gen. (Kickstarter)
eOS 2.4.8
eBlocker Family Lifetime
https: no
MacPro 6.1
macOS 10.15.6

I can' t describe the problem better than I have already done. I hope the technical information will help to answer my question …


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23/08/2020 4:37 pm  

@kazuhisa If https is off and DNS is not activated eBlocker doesn‘t do anything, I fear. 🤔 

I would recommend to activate https, install the eBlocker cert in your OS and enjoy tracker and ad free surfing... 😎 

And if you want coverage for http-only devices you need to activate DNS FW. Make sure to set to „Internet provider“ for the first run...


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23/08/2020 5:12 pm  

@kazuhisa

First question: Is the time&date correct when you look into the System -> Events (Ereignisse)?

For testing purposes

  • Download the BananaPi Image 
  • Write it to an MicroSD Card
  • Unplug the Cube and open the case
  • Put the MicroSD in it
  • Plug andNetwork back again
  • Test eBlocker 2.5.0 from the MicroSD Card (you have to set it up first)

It will not change anything on the internal emmc eBlocker installation

regards Sven


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14/10/2020 6:25 pm  

eOS 2.4.9
Family Lifetime
HTTPS: active
DNS: active
macOS 10.15.7

I bought a 'new' eBlocker white cube on eBay. Now HTTPS and DNS is working. Maybe there's now a solution?

I have a lot of advertising on Sony Android TVs with the YouTube app, which we often use. The eBlocker does not block advertising on Smart TV, or? So I have another idea, which I would like to place here to the professionals: I found these Thread: How to Block Ads on your Smart TV (Samsung, LG, Roku and Sony).

I want to use version Step-2: Filter / Block specific Ad URLs. There are no URLs given for Sony, only a setup explanation that doesn't work with the current Android. For the Router / Filter I need the URLs to block. I have searched online, unfortunately I can' t find anything. Can anyone here perhaps give a hint where the URLs can be found?


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14/10/2020 10:50 pm  

@kazuhisa

As you have no certificate installed in your tv, it is nearly impossible to filter everything out.

What you may try - but that is work intensive - is spying on the tv traffic with this project

https://www.heise.de/ct/artikel/c-t-Raspion-Projektseite-4606645.html

 

Shortly:

Installing a Raspi with Raspbian and adding the Raspion project

Connecting the tv to the raspion device

Examing all the traffic which the tv generates to find all the URLs it calls

Adding them to eBlocker for the tv

 

Happy Hunting 🙂

Regards

sven 


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15/10/2020 8:09 am  

@kazuhisa I‘m not watching youtube due to a Google allergy, so sorry for my dumb question: are the ads you like to block on your TV being blocked by eBlocker if you watch the same video on pc/mac? 

If this is not the case either, I doubt there is a way to block them on TV. I would suspect that Google inserts the ads first party (from the same domain) which makes it impossible to block if eBlocker HTTPS can not be enabled for the device (due to the lack of flexibility to add individual certificates).


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15/10/2020 12:03 pm  

On the Mac, advertising is blocked (as far as possible). The only problem is the SmartTV. I have nothing against a short commercial, with 3 minutes of video (music, docus) it is clearly too much. We sit together in the family, and each of us chooses a music clip one after the other. The advertisements are a real kick in the ass.

The Sony SmartTV is connected via LAN, I only use WLAN for mobile devices. All computers are also LAN based with inactive WLAN. As router I have a FRITZ!Box 7590, that's the gateway.

Yes, advertising is blocked on the PC, the eBlocker works great. But I also use Adblock Plus because it can be configured more individually when it is about advertising on complex websites.
Mmhhh, is it maybe possible to filter the YouTube Ad URLs from Adblock Plus? In the eBlocker Settings > HTTPS are settings for "Trusted ..." things, why not also filters to block URLs? That would be great to protect the entire network globally. Under Devices there's no possibility to add filters. Too bad.

I'm technically a total loser. I can't realize anything complicated. Therefore my idea to block URLs in the router. Is the idea so bad? YouTube must have reachable URLs, otherwise eBlocker or Adblock Plus can't be so powerful? I can hardly believe that the YouTube APP has different URLs for every producer, LG, Samsung, Sony, ...


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17/10/2020 3:59 pm  
Posted by: @kazuhisa

Therefore my idea to block URLs in the router. Is the idea so bad?

I understand you are not tech savvy and will try my best to explain again:

If the youtube ads are served from a particular domain (say ads.youtube.com, ads.google.com etc) then you can block them using eBlocker easily (even if HTTPS is disabled).

If the ads are served by a first party URL (say youtube.com/bad-ads.php) then they can be easily blocked by eBlocker if HTTPS is enabled for the device (cert needs the be installed) but not otherwise (when HTTPS is off)!

Now: Your SmartTV can probably not be enabled for HTTPS, I guess?!

To get the same environment on your PC (to check what is still blocked there and what to expect on your TV - not comparing pears and apples) please:

1. Disable your adblocker (or other similar tools) on PC

2. Disable HTTPS for your PC

NOW: Check your videos on PC. I'd guess they are having ads as on your SmartTV.

If so, it's probably first party ads served by youtube - which can not be blocked if HTTPS can not be enabled.

Hope this makes it more clear: If HTTPS can not be enabled on SmartTV you can not expect to get the same blocking quality as if HTTPS is enabled.


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22/10/2020 4:37 pm  

Is there meanwhile a solution to block youtube ads reliable ?


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22/10/2020 9:11 pm  

@fox My above post is from five days ago... and I have nothing to add yet 🤔 

Maybe some user using youtube with eBlocker https enabled can share his experience, if that‘s what you are looking for?

I‘m not going to visit google domains, sorry. I‘m allergic to them 😉 

THX!


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23/10/2020 3:25 pm  

@random

yea exactly, blocking Youtube Video ads works fine with UBlock Origin but a DNS based filtering semas to fail. Can eBlocker Filter ads like uBlock or is it DNS based onlylike PiHole


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23/10/2020 3:39 pm  

@fox eBlocker works pattern based (not just DNS) on the same format (easylist) as ublock or adblock+. You can also add individual easylist formated lists.

DNS is only a fallback in case eBlocker https can not be enabled on client (please see above). 

THX!


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25/10/2020 1:00 pm  

@random wao ! That sounds promising, so all traffic  runs through eBlocker ?


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25/10/2020 7:49 pm  

@fox Yes, see https://eblocker.org/en/how-eblocker-works/

THX!


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30/10/2020 12:34 pm  

@randomI saw that you offer a commercial prebuilt unit on amazon. But there the seller(eblocker) answered that eblocker cant handle youtube apps ?! Is that a different build of eblocker ?


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30/10/2020 6:19 pm  
Posted by: @fox

saw that you offer a commercial prebuilt unit on amazon.

That's wrong and history. Please check our home page and read fully...

In brief: The company that produced the commercial eBlocker filed insolvency and ceased business mid last year.

Here at eBlocker Open Source we continue to maintain the eBlocker software (we took from the ashes of insolvency) to made it public and free. No hardware anymore.

Sorry, but I feel this dealer has no idea what he's talking about and fear this is fake...  BEWARE!!

THX!


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